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Sabrina's avatar

This reminds me of the bigger conversation and topic about climate emotions. If you haven't, I highly recommend looking up "The Climate Scale" created by Isaias Hernandez (Queer Brown Vegan). They speak to a scale that includes: Eutierra, Soliphilia, Solastalgia, Eco Anxiety, Eco phobia, Eco guilt, Eco grieving, Tierratrauma & Eco rage.

Really excited to listen and hear from more folks about this topic. It's hard to mourn something that is technically still living. But being able to process it, makes it that much easier to move forward towards action ❤️

Gary Hoover's avatar

I really love and appreciate your work. My own sense is that we have been taught to be terrified of death and extinction, and we have normalized our ecocidal and genocidal ways to thrive — which only causes us to fear death and extinction more.

I suggest that we embrace individual death and even species extinction as natural portals into the mystery that we find ourselves in the middle of already.

We are living in the Hellish afterlife of millennia of increasing ecocide and genocide, and as we face our own deaths and our species suicide, we are terrified.

If we try to make a way for life by being as loving as possible, we will die too — but I believe we will not be as afraid to die.

We have been given profoundly misleading maps for life. We have been taught so much about ourselves and our universe that are simply not true.

Babies need to spend time with the very old. Children need to see their elders die well-loved.

We are mortal, and our species is mortal. But we are one with the soil and the stars — even as we live, we are one with the whole living body of ongoing Creation.

We are not going to unshred our habitat or bring back the Holocene. The body of Mother Earth is changing very fast, and is not ours to control. We can adapt and be responsive in order to nurture life as best as we can, but we are not responsible to make our species or our planet somehow live forever.

We already have the gift of eternal life here in the Impossible House of Love. We belong and are beloved forever.

I feel like we have become eco-terrorists because we have learned to survive through indifference and cruelty.

Hell is the inability to love.

Heaven is the ability to love.

We are here to love.

I appreciate the academic discussion, but also note that all of the people and living creatures I have loved and lost teach me how to grieve, how to trust that they are always with me, and also that even those unborn are already here with us.

Could it be that baseline expectations and deeply mistaken ideas of reality are pretty solidly baked in to our ideas about the environment and our relationship to the environment?

I’m thinking that we are already living well-into a rapid and accelerating extinction event, and that the very violent conglomeration of ecocidal/genocidal civilizations are responding with more violence.

I’m thinking that corruption and rapacity determine actual policy and lock us in to self-terminating collective actions.

With our god-like technology we are caught in multiple multipolar traps, are we not? Those with actual power must develop more weapons faster, and more means of controlling the bodies, hearts and minds of masses of people in order to render them compliant.

Even if planet earth were to be ecologically stable, and even if we stopped war, and even if we were governed justly rather than by organized crime masquerading as government, civil society, and legitimate business — wouldn’t we need to burn more fossil fuels in the next 30 years than we have burned so far in history?

I’m trying to imagine the spiritual revolution and transformation that might make a way for human life to continue on earth.

Our current religion involves the complete destruction of the biosphere, to be replaced my a mechanical technosphere.

“We” are trying to turn a living planet into mechanical spaceship that “we” can live on forever, and never grow old, never suffer pain, and never die.

Our culture has cultivated, glorified, and consistently affirmed malignant narcissism, criminal sociopathy, and particularly cruel compulsive Machiavellianism as our ideals, has it not? This is who we vote for and this us who we elevate to positions of leadership in the incredibly ecocidal businesses that dominate our economic and political life, isn’t it?

Haven’t we been made to believe absurdities, and so have been made to be complicit in atrocities?

Isn’t this the real source of our terror and grief?

How can we talk about the future without exploring these questions?

You may be surprised to know that I do not think the future is locked in or that we are damned and doomed.

I do think that we are not asking the right questions about who we are, how we got here, and how we might trust the great come-what-may.

Will the way open before us as we dance our prayers upon the earth?

Doesn’t how we get and share our food determine how we treat each other?

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